![]() KH: She heard me sing at this charity Zoom. And the muscle for me was so intimate that to work with someone who is facilitating it differently than I’d ever had was such a great writing experience.ĪS: How did that partnership with Linda Perry come about? How did you connect? I’d never had anyone to push me with structure. So in, I just went, “I’m just going to start saying yes.” Because I used to say no a lot to people and singing with people and doing things, and I said, “I’m going to say yes every time someone asks me to sing, I’m going to say yes, and then see where that takes me.” And within six months, I was writing with Linda, and that was amazing because I’d never collaborated in writing. and the lockdown really are what made me realize that if I don’t make a record, it will be the great regret of my life, and I have to do it. I don’t think that I would’ve been ready to put that kind of vulnerability out in the world to be judged and criticized if I was any younger than I am now. And it had to be authentic for me in order to do it, or else I don’t know why I’d be doing it. ![]() We could do this.”And I’m like, “That’s not how I see music.” For me, music is a process in which you give it everything. The concept for me of making a record, there were times that people were like, “Would you make a record?” And they were like, “We could get great writers. For me, any movie that had music in it, was like, I’m ready and down. And at that time, if you became well-known as an actor, then trying to become a singer is sort of like, “Don’t break what’s not broken.” And so I realized and kinda went, “Well, I guess that won’t happen for me.” But I still kept it to myself and continued to write music.ĪS: But throughout your career you’ve dabbled in music here and there. Then when I started getting cast in movies, my career went from zero to 100 very fast. Writing music and playing music and singing was something I always wanted to do-musical theater-I love to sing, but writing, that’s where I would disappear to. Then I started playing the piano, and then it was just my secret kind of happy place. But it was an exercise for me, like what would my words sound like to this music that I love so much if it was my young mind. I’d listen to a Bob Dylan song, and I’d write my own lyrics over Bob Dylan’s songs or Neil Young’s song ( laughs). So I would then start listening to, I remember when I discovered Neil Young and I tried to share it with my family, and they didn’t have the same kind of soul connection to it where I’m like, “What do you mean? This is the greatest thing I’ve ever heard in my life.” Then I just started to write.įor me, it always started with my poetry. But I wasn’t raised in a musical household. It was classical music and Kurt loves a little rock music. My parents, my mom and Kurt, weren’t big music-there wasn’t a lot of music in the house. I would lock myself in rooms when I got older, and I would discover music on my own. I realized that I didn’t share that with anyone else in my family, that I was living with. I didn’t realize that I was doing it at the time, but I would deconstruct music in my head to learn it. I’d listen to a verse and I’d go back and I’d try to understand it, and then I’d listen to the pre-chorus. I remember listening to her music and being like this is my future. ![]() But Madonna, I was in that era of young, young girls, so she was my Taylor Swift. And I had a Madonna track and a Van Halen track. There was one song called “Jump” and I would listen to it over and over again. ![]() I had this little Fisher Price record player and I had 45s and I would listen to the Pointer Sisters over and over. American Songwriter: Take us through how music came into your life and how it all started with music.
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